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i need to use a machine to create the gas to supply the genset and i am only given the 2000 liters per hour. so the genset uses 269 meter cube per hour at 100% power. how do i do the conversion to make sure i am supplying it with enough gas or if i need more gas generating machines. thanks

1 cubic metre is 1000 litres. So, if the genset is using 269 cubic meter per hour, it means it needs 269,000 litres of gas per hour. So you would need 135 generators (since you cannot have a half generator), which together give you 270,000 litres per hour, leaving you a surplus of 1000 litres per hour.

How do we get 1000 literes for each cubic meter? 1 meter is 100 centimeters and so 1 cubic meter is 1000,000 cubic centimeter. 1 liter (or lire) is 1000 cubic centimeters. So, 1 cubic meter is 1000 liters.

what would be the loss in output VA rating of a petrol engine generator if its used with Natural Gas by installing a gas kit ?

I heard that Natural gas is not a perfect fuel for the generators ........ so there would be a loss or lesser VA output would i get .......... but its an approximation ..............

i want to know if theres an exact measurement or any formula ......

i hard that 2 KVA generator would give 1500 to 1600 VA output with natural gas ........... means it can run 1500 VA to 1600 VA load and thats a full load condition.

what would be the power factor of a 2 KVA generator ? And, how can i measure the PF of it ?

thanks

An equivalent volume of natural gas supplies about 80% of the energy of gasoline. However unless the engine were running at full throttle which is highly unlikely, any lost power would be negligible. Typically the engine will compensate by opening the throttle further to maintain proper speed.

Power factor is a function of the load, not the generator. The generator can supply a certain amount of current to the load. In a reactive load, not all the current can be used to create power. In a non reactive load 1 watt is the same as 1VA. In a reactive load 1VA will be less than 1W. Measuring power factor can not be done with a simple voltmeter and ammeter. You need to measure the phase difference between the two and calculate from there. There are power monitors which will display power factor of the load. A properly rated AC capacitor can be placed in parallel with the load to maximize power available.

http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Relative-Efficiency-of-Gasoline,-Natural-Gas,-and-Propane-Fuels-For-Back-Up-Generators&id=2991047

Gasoline 1 gallon = 125,000 BTUs
Natural Gas 1 CCF = 100,015 BTUs (CCF=100 cubic feet)
Propane 1 gallon = 91,700 BTUs
You can see from above that 1 gallon of gasoline is more efficient than 100 cubic feet of natural gas or 1 gallon or propane. In fact, the ratio is approximately:

1 gasoline = 1.25 CCF natural gas = 1.36 gallons propane
In other words, you would need 1.36 gallons of propane to produce the equivalent BTUs of 1 gallon of gasoline; or, 1.25 CCF of natural gas.

I have a 240 ford engine that powers a generator it is now set up to run on natural gas. I was wondering what I will have to do to run this on propane? Thanks

Get out your Yellow Pages and look up Strickland Propane, I think they have an 800 number. Ask for Hank Hill, explain your problem and I bet Hank will have the answer.


you have to buy a carborator conversion kit

icon smile how do i convert my 5500 portable gasoline generator to run on natural gas?

I would like to try a browns gas generator on a 3 cylinder Diesel engine to compare efficiency and save money and not add a turbo to the unit. I just wanted to know if anyone had any experience in this. I am also considering a natural gas flow to the intake.

Had the previous responder actually read from his Wikipedia reference he would have proven himself incorrect...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen

Automotive
Oxyhydrogen is often mentioned in conjunction with devices that claim to operate a car using water as a fuel. Because the energy required to split water exceeds the energy recouped by burning it, these devices reduce, rather than improve fuel efficiency.

I've read many other reputable research items refuting the benefits of Brown's Gas in this application. I've personally tested a few and determined to my own satisfaction that any apparent gain in automotive fuel economy is due to driving style, not hydrogen energy.


To be safe call your local building and zoning department to see if there is a code on this.

Also call your local gas or LP company and ask them for a recommendation.

If you are stubborn and still don't want to make the call, the minimum that I have ever heard of as a regulation for a buried line was telephone at 24 inches.

The real question you have to ask yourself is; how deep do you need to be for safety? 20 years from now when the location of the line has been forgotten and someone is driving a stake for a volleyball net in the yard or a laundry pole or -- you get the picture.

Natural gas powered electric generator?

Where can i get information on installation and system design of a small to medium natural gas powered electric generator?

I would like information like gas consumption, power output, efficiency, mantainence, costs the whole nine yards

I would suggest you contact a manufacturer such as the one shown below.

http://www.yamaha-propane-natural-gas-generators.com/ef2600c_specifications.htm

Many of the gasoline models can be provided as natural gas or propane capable.


Gasoline powered portable generators can have their carburetors converted to propane, natural gas, and gasoline fuel.

http://www.propane-generators.com/


In sufficient data. Is there are pressure regulator? If so is the 3/4 psi the pressure upstream or downstream? What is the length of the upstream run? If there is a pressure regulator, what is the pressure drop across the regulator.

i need to use a machine to create the gas to supply the genset and i am only given the 2000 liters per hour. so the genset uses 269 meter cube per hour at 100% power. how do i do the conversion to make sure i am supplying it with enough gas or if i need more gas generating machines. thanks

update the gas generator is 2000 liters per hour at 60 psi and the genset is consuming 269 meter cube per hour at 2-34 kpa or 4.6 - 80 oz/inch square

269meters cubed per hour = 269000 liters/hour

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